Guest Munshaw Report post Posted May 10, 2007 I was fishing a local river the other day and came across two fellows chucking HUGE treble hooks into sturgeon spawning pools and snagging them in the face/sides. The following day I saw them fishing for walleye. Great stuff! Keep up the good work assholes. I have sent photos and descriptions to the MNR, but would like to post this photo of their truck hoping everyone who comes across them can give them a hard time. I approached them about it, and they gave an attitude like "f___ you". Then they saw I was taking pictures of them and they left. They are almost definitely locals. Its laughable that they would call themselves fishermen. One guy is tall, short cropped grey hair in his late 40's early 50's. The other guy is short and stalky and younger, maybe 30ish. They like to fish with 6 foot 2/4's and huge treble hooks - please report them to the MNR if you see them continuing this behavior! Guys - please use your camera as a weapon! Many of you carry digital cameras these days, and I think the MNR appreciates it when we can help fill the void left by government cutbacks. I HATE to see people snagging fish, particularly when they are so vulnerable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gone fishin' 3 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 It was quite brave of you to challenge them. In the woods, no one else around- I can't say I would be that brave. Taking photos is a great idea- I carry a camera most of the time, as does every one else on this board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Moose Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Good to see people stepping up. Right on. MOOSE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fishinbuddy Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Good to see people stepping up. Right on. MOOSE I agree with moose "GOOD FOR YOU". Somebody speaking up and takeing some action shows true character. I also think when you are alone you maybe a little less confrontation the #'s aren't on your side. You are lucky these guys are CHIKENS as well as POACHERS. You are 100% right about the camera being a great tool to use against people like this. Hopefully this type of thing will disappear in the future. fishinbuddy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest YQT Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Ontario 185 9MV...........let me see........LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Munshaw Report post Posted May 11, 2007 I'm not really all that worried about confrontation while on rivers. I mean, what's the worst that can happen? So the guy gets irate and snaps your rod in half and takes a swing at you - lets hope he's stupid enough! Then he'd have a nice assault and mischief charge to go along with his poaching charge! It's not like I go out looking for conflict, but as with others I know, I'm certainly not going to say nothing at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dan Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Good job Munshaw. Love the photo of the truck with the plate #'s. Let's hope it goes somewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TerryK Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Awesome Munshaw! Thanks for standing up and doing something! I'm sick of hearing these stories but the story teller refused to do anything about the moron doing the poaching. I'm quite sure that guy is going to get a summons delivered to him quite soon! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Old Guy 968 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Just a thought here but first, Way to go Munshaw!!!!! I know that there are a few C.O.'s that frequent this board and the MNR now depends on tips from the public. Should I open a "Report a Poacher Board"? Just a thought and would people use it if they can? And would the MNR agree to it? Let me know! Roger Quote R.T.R. Respect the resource! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speckmaster 114 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 I think it's a great idea because like the other guys said, most people carry digital cameras and can capture any "funny business". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Baiter 1 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Awesme job there Mud....keep it up boys!! Roger thats an awesome idea Quote If your not a Master Baiter, you'll never pull the big one!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Moose Report post Posted May 11, 2007 Hey Roger I don't see why your idea wouldn't fly give it a shot. I wouldn't say that I go looking for conflict all the time but I sure as hell wouldn't back down from some dumb rear end acting stupid. If someone was to step up I wouldn't hesitate. WHEN IN DOUBT KNOCK EM OUT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gone8to1248 158 Report post Posted May 11, 2007 I know there are some LAW Enforcement Officers that are on the Board here and may want to give some input into this. You may want to be careful about confronting someone out in the bush or when your alone. It's not only a matter of you being able to kick thier #@!, it's also a matter on not crossing the line and comitting an assult yourself. I'm aware that your laws are somewhat different up there than the ones down here so you may want to brush up on them. An EXAMPLE**** I threaten to hit you. I have just committed an Assult. I touch or hit you in a provocking manner, I have now committed a Battery. Another EXAMPLE*** I'm 6'6" tall and weigh 280lbs and I threaten to hit you. You weigh in at 120lbs and stand 5'2" tall. You fear for your life because of the size difference and grab a log and hit me over the head. I would be charged with Assult and you would have used self defense. There is a thing called the "Reasonable Man Act". What would 100 people in that same case do? I would just take the pictures of the crime being committed and of thier vehicles and if at all possible with them IN THE VeHICLES!! That way they can conficate their vehicles if they want! And if they should thraten you or come after you,then tell them you are afraid of them and kick the living #@*& out of them!! LOL Everyones LAWS are a little different so just know which ones you are under. At one time I was a police officer for a county! Gone8to1248 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fishinbuddy Report post Posted May 13, 2007 Great idea Rodger!!!!! Fishinbuddy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TerryK Report post Posted May 13, 2007 Just a thought here but first, Way to go Munshaw!!!!! I know that there are a few C.O.'s that frequent this board and the MNR now depends on tips from the public. Should I open a "Report a Poacher Board"? Just a thought and would people use it if they can? And would the MNR agree to it? Let me know! Roger Fantastic idea Rog, but make sure you look at any legal issues posting someone's name and licence number might bring. If there are none, the LET'S GET EM!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Munshaw Report post Posted May 13, 2007 There is definatley no physical aspect to confronting someone on a river, be it alone or with a group of people. Most (hopefully) adults are beyond threatening someone with physical harm I think. Its simply a matter of sticking with the law in my eyes. I would never dream of assaulting someone on a river, or trying to intimidate them with threats. I could see how someone may get upset and want to start something, particularly if you're standing there taking pictures of them. Like I said, if they wanted to assault you on the river, they'd be facing much more than just a poaching charge, they'd face criminal charges as well. Its not something I really worry about. If someone wants to put that much on the line for some poached fish - I say let them! I can just see it now - two dueling fishermen brandishing 13 footers. Thrust- parry parry - Thrust Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest segabo Report post Posted May 13, 2007 Many digital cameras have the option of taking short video clips as well. It would have been nice to have a video of these creeps in the act. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest loggerpete Report post Posted May 19, 2007 Great Idea but this site could be liable legally if someone innocent gets they`re stuff vandalized cause someone put a picture up of they`re truck.I wrote down this guys number and have it in my tackle bag and if I see this guys truck I`ll take a closer look and even try taking pictures of this guy screwing up. But its still hear say. No offence but if one of my trucks shows up here I`m gonna be pissed.I don`t poach but there are a lot of loosers out there that like to stirr up poopy poop. Just sayin carefull where your goin with this,by the way is there an update on this guy like did the law investigate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Munshaw Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Haven't heard anything back on this particular case HOWEVER regarding a different case from earlier in the spring where a part of 3 (including myself) took pictures of a poacher - two guys are set for trial after CO's caught them with 14 steelies between two people. All from one simple digital picture sent to the MNR... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big Moose Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Right On, 14 is a bit excessive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TerryK Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Thats AWESOME Adam! Hope those low lifes get the book thrown at them. 14 steelhead? Geeze! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
