Fishog 215 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 Can't believe there are people like this out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zackcorbin1401 542 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 😂😂 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thefishleclair 175 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 Gotta make money, Less road work equals better profit margins. I miss Gary, as Cranky as he was there was always a road. 4 Quote Grumpas' Baits Check it out on FB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AB 98 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 It's not an actually ice road, it's a turkey trail on a lake. A proper ice road is about 100 meters wide with a travel corridor of 30 meters or so in the center. It's flooded so the ice thickness is 36 inches or more and can handle weights up to 90,000lbs. The snow on the side of the road is weight pushing down. Moving it well off to the sides keeps the travel surface lighter and floating above the waterline. By flooding to increase ice thickness you add both strength and buoyancy so the center of the road lifts up away from the water. Ice road users are controlled for speed and frequency to keep the intensity and amplitude of the pressure waves created by vehicles from damaging the road surface. Making a proper ice road is a science. Running around with a plow on a pickup, making a corridor of 2 truck widths is a recipe for disaster. Worked for a company that builds the annual ice roads in the arctic. The closest decent ice roads built around here are on Rainy and Wabigoon Lakes. They cost a ton of money to install and and maintain, but they don't flood and become slush traps either. AB 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snag??? 173 Report post Posted January 24, 2023 & 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Sanchenz 58 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 Well I figure, If you own a business that is 100% ice fishing related you have to have the proper equipment to make it work. Of course people who own shacks on the lake are pizzed there is no road. If Shacks Landing figures they are not responsible to put in a road, then don't do it. If they want the business then you have to make the customers happy period. Owing a business like that in this climate needs more that a 3/4 ton with a plow to operate in our winters, thats on them. I can see Shacks landing point as well but if your gonna run a business you have to run the whole thing not just what suits you. The reality is, no acess, no shacks, no business. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaff 3 Report post Posted January 26, 2023 Hey AB can i copy and post your post on shack landings page? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AB 98 Report post Posted January 27, 2023 Kaff, Go ahead , here is an example of a proper ice road. The Gunnar road is a little one compared to some in the NWT and Yukon. Like I said building an ice road is a science, and incredibly expensive to do it safely for both the constructors and travelers. AB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scandiman 114 Report post Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 9:52 AM, Dirty Sanchenz said: Well I figure, If you own a business that is 100% ice fishing related you have to have the proper equipment to make it work. Of course people who own shacks on the lake are pizzed there is no road. If Shacks Landing figures they are not responsible to put in a road, then don't do it. If they want the business then you have to make the customers happy period. Owing a business like that in this climate needs more that a 3/4 ton with a plow to operate in our winters, thats on them. I can see Shacks landing point as well but if your gonna run a business you have to run the whole thing not just what suits you. The reality is, no acess, no shacks, no business. What about pulling shacks out with a snow machine like so many others do at so many other lakes? Just a thought lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Sanchenz 58 Report post Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, scandiman said: What about pulling shacks out with a snow machine like so many others do at so many other lakes? Just a thought lol. Well there ya go, problem solved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thefishleclair 175 Report post Posted January 27, 2023 20 hours ago, AB said: Kaff, Go ahead , here is an example of a proper ice road. The Gunnar road is a little one compared to some in the NWT and Yukon. Like I said building an ice road is a science, and incredibly expensive to do it safely for both the constructors and travelers. AB built ice roads for years. plow truck and go for most part. Starting early on snow removal is key. Quote Grumpas' Baits Check it out on FB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forkhorn 13 Report post Posted January 28, 2023 As the old saying goes…. ‘Only one that doesn’t know how to grade the rd is the grader operator’…. Still applies today(circa 99’) Everyone always has the answer, when there not involved. One thing Gary had back in the day was help, a lot of people chipped in and did above and beyond to help each other… and they had a damn good time. from what I gather from these posts it’s not how it was back in the day. But people had each other’s backs and definitely not surprised there isn’t a ice rd this year… if you haven’t heard….. We had an usually warm January. Everyone one is struggling that works outdoors… and that’s what happens when you leave the city walls. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishog 215 Report post Posted January 28, 2023 The way I see it from Shacks Landing post is some people believe that they are entitled to the things they want and need, and they feel that you should provide it for them on demand. I don't believe when you pay for your storage fees does it say anywhere a ice road will be provided. Day trippers pay for access across private proberty to access lake frontage. There is a sign that says use at your own risk. Maybe buy the place if you think you can improve on it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Sanchenz 58 Report post Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Fishog said: The way I see it from Shacks Landing post is some people believe that they are entitled to the things they want and need, and they feel that you should provide it for them on demand. I don't believe when you pay for your storage fees does it say anywhere a ice road will be provided. Day trippers pay for access across private proberty to access lake frontage. There is a sign that says use at your own risk. Maybe buy the place if you think you can improve on it. Shacks Landing needs to put all services and rules into a written contact so its all clear. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishog 215 Report post Posted January 28, 2023 No I am talking to the people who seem to have missed the point that Marjorie Wing wanted to make and that is they are doing the best that they can with the given weather and if the person leaving nasty messages wants more then go out and help. No where do they advertise Shacks landing ice road. Its advertised as Shacks Landing for storage. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Sanchenz 58 Report post Posted January 28, 2023 45 minutes ago, Fishog said: No I am talking to the people who seem to have missed the point that Marjorie Wing wanted to make and that is they are doing the best that they can with the given weather and if the person leaving nasty messages wants more then go out and help. No where do they advertise Shacks landing ice road. Its advertised as Shacks Landing for storage. Ok, I understand that.👍 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
