more clarification on crownland camping/fish limits please

[Resource Pimp 60]

If the non-resident is camping on Crown land in Fisheries Zones 2, 4, 5 or 6 and holds a sport fishing licence he cannot take fish in excess of the conservation catch and possession limits set out under the Ontario Fishery Regulations. In Zone 5, there is an area affected by International Border Water Regulations which has different limits on the number of walleye, sauger and lake trout that non-residents can catch and retain. (See pages 22-24 of the 2008-2009 Fishing Regulations Summary.

www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/pubs/fishing/2008%20Fishing%20Regulations%20Summary/Zone%205.pdf

The same non-resident would be exempt from having to purchase a Crown land camping permit if he/she:

a) was under 18 years of age

was using a camping unit rented from a person who carries on a business in Ontario.

c) Owned real property in Ontario or was the spouse of a person who owned property in Ontario

d) was a member or person in charge of a charitable or non-profit group that was camping with the permission of the local district manager of the ministry; or

e) was carrying out duties required by lawful employment in Canada,.

So regardless of whether the non-resident is registered at a lodge or if they are in possession of a Crown land camping permit or exempt from having one, it’s where he/she is sleeping for the night (i.e., Crown land) which determines what the catch limit is.

The fee for a Crown land camping permit is $9.35 per night which includes an issuing fee of 50 cents.

You say : " regardless of whether the non-resident is registered at a lodge or if they are in possession of a Crown land camping permit or exempt from having one, it’s where he/she is sleeping for the night (i.e., Crown land) which determines what the catch limit is."

Why does the law dis-criminate between renting a tent from an outfitter and (sleeping on crown land) or renting an outpost cabin from an outfitter(sleeping on crownland). One is entitled to a half limit, one a full limit. Both match your definition, both should have half limits.

[Guest MNR]

MNR Answer:

An outpost camp that is situated on crown land and operated by an outfitter is there under the authority of a “Land Use Permit”. The permit has various conditions and is issued for a specific length of time. The land it is situated on is considered to be the same as private land while the LUP is in effect. Therefore, any non-resident person or persons legally staying at the outpost camp would be considered to be sleeping on private property and are therefore allowed to keep a full fishing licence catch and possession limit.